Jury in Trayvon Martin case revealed

14 Jul

Trayvon Martin jury

If you want to see racism inaction by those who claim they are not racists, just look at the gloating that is going on.  That trait, or better flaw, should be added as the 8th deadly sin. As Bonasera said in the opening line of The Godfather, “I believe in America.” Personally, I believe in the justice system and accept the outcome. There are as many innocent people in prison as there are the guilty walking around unpunished. But what I won’t accept is people who have twisted this outcome as justifiable, that Zimmerman was doing society a favor by deputizing himself and becoming judge, jury and executioner to a kid who was walking home in the rain. Today’s candidate for a straight jacket and a Thorazine drip is the infamous Amazona, aka Alimetra who declared with unquestioning certainty that Trayvon was going home to mix bottled Ice Tea and Skittles into some sort of mind altering concoction.  I think the only high to be obtained from this brew would be a sugar high. Or perhaps Nitrous Oxide if drinking it caused cavities. Breaking Bad this is not. It will be interesting to see what the Justice Dept. does and I await further lunacy from the far right.


Posted by on July 14, 2013 in Uncategorized


17 responses to “Jury in Trayvon Martin case revealed

  1. Cluster

    July 15, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    That’s actually a funny depiction but it distracts from the fact that the jury reached the right verdict. The prosecution over reached with the second degree murder charge, and then tried to desperately reduce the charge in the last days of the trial when they realized they were losing. Why did they over reach? That’s a good question to think about. My opinion is that was because of undue external pressures brought about by inflamed racial biases. And isn’t justice suppose to be color blind? Why won’t we allow that? Why did the media paint Zimmerman as a white man when he is half Hispanic? Why does the media paint Obama as a black man when he is half white? Many pundits on MSNBC are now saying that this verdict means that it is “open season” on young black men. Why do we allow the media to do that?

    I will also tell you that yesterday I was called a liberal on another blog for expressing my opinion that Zimmerman most likely had other options to get away from Trayvon rather than shooting him.

    In my opinion, too many people on this issue are acting like over emotional children.

    • kmg

      July 15, 2013 at 12:37 pm

      I saw the attacks on you and thought they were extremely unfair, but not out of the norm since they primarily came from one person. It was funny that she kept saying “Zimmerman’s TESTIMONY” over and over when Zimmerman declined to testify.

      The problem with the verdict is a problem in Florida law. Unlike most other states, if a defendant raises the issue of self-defense in Florida, it becomes the prosecution’s burden to disprove it. A lawyer commenting on another blog said that if you get into an altercation in Florida and you’re sure there are no witnesses, it is best to just kill the other guy. You claim self-defense and there is no way to disprove it.

  2. Cluster

    July 15, 2013 at 12:22 pm

  3. mitchethekid

    July 15, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    I agree Cluster that the State should have prosecuted Zimmerman under the manslaughter charge from the get go. After all, he did kill Martin, but I also find it telling that the defense dropped the Stand Your Ground law as a defense. Carl Bernstein said something that made me think. He said that the first thing a non-Black person sees of a Black person is their Blackness. I’m Caucasian. People see me as white, but I am also a Jew. (Non practicing but none the less) My point is until I say something about it, a racist or a bigot would have no idea until I draw attention to it, and there are plenty of anti-Semite’s around. He went on to say that an element of the painful discussion that needs to take place about race, is that white’s need to start to think about what it must be like to be Black. Not in a bleeding heart, wimpy Liberal sort of way, but a bit more sympathetic. Empathy is a sign of a good listener.
    I think it is a symptom of mass denial to claim that race was interjected into this. With a perspective of trying to understand the Black experience, from their point of view it was all about race. And racial profiling. And legitimizing vigilantism. The country was built on slavery, shameful as it is and sadly those attitudes still exist. Civil Rights as law is still relatively new and to many Blacks the reality of it mocks the legality of it.
    I am a keen study of Physical Anthropology and Evolution. Adaptive traits help one survive and one adaptive trait is fear of the unknown. Caution if you will. What you don’t know can kill you and all of that. I think there is a neurological component to racism and bigotry. “They” look different. “They” talk funny. You’re one of “them”. Look how we treated not only Blacks, but native Americans. Called them savages, destroyed their way of life, their culture and 99% of their populations.
    So much of our behavior is unconscious, reactionary and emanates from what Sagan called the Reptilian Brain Stem. We need to evolve out of that, and that’s a tall order. Stephen Jay Gould said that evolution comes in bursts. A technological example in our own time would be cell phones, but geologic time is much much slower. The good news is that the speed of change is exponential. Humans have a capacity that is unique in the sense of it’s dominance and that is self-awareness. That detached element where thoughts are clouds drifting across the sky of your mind. You read Castaneda, remember when he talked about lucid dreams and finding your hands in them? Becoming conscious of the fact that you are sleeping? My target in this tangent is that racism and hate are acquired characteristics. They are taught and any behavioral psychologist can tell you that habits can be unlearned. It’s attitudes that are more difficult to access.

    • Cluster

      July 15, 2013 at 4:03 pm

      The country was built on slavery, shameful as it is and sadly those attitudes still exist.

      This I disagree with. Slavery legally ended in 1865, and effectively ended in the early 1900’s. This infrastructure of this country was largely built from 1880 – 1950. Many of the slaves left the plantations of the south to help build the railroad, the Erie Canal, etc. during that time but that was after they were legally free.

      Also, racism is not a one way street. No one ever mentions the fact that Trayvon called Zimmerman a “creepy ass cracker”, and ironically, Zimmerman actually looks more hispanic than he does white. Blacks can be just as racist as whites, hispanics, etc.

      • watsonthethird

        July 17, 2013 at 9:44 pm

        I always thought “creepy ass cracker” referred to a creepy person whose ass crack shows when he bends over. (As opposed to a cracker who is a creepy ass. 🙂

  4. Cluster

    July 15, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    C’mon now – this isn’t right:

    MSNBC anchor Al Sharpton said that he and his National Action Network are “mobilizing” protests in 100 cities.

    The verdict was the right verdict based on the evidence, but that won’t stop Sharpton from shamelessly pouring salt on the nations wounds. IF, and that’s a big IF, ol Rev. Al wanted to do something meaningful, and constructive, he would be in Chicago addressing the black on black crime that is resulting in the needless deaths of innocent black children nearly every day.

  5. mitchethekid

    July 15, 2013 at 5:21 pm

    Well, you got me there! However, Jim Crow laws existed in our life times and the attitudes I mentioned are still prevalent. Yes, all people can be racist and that’s a fact but the group that is in the receiving end of it most times are Black Americans.Look at the bigotry extended towards immigrants during the time period you mentioned. Wop for Italians means With Out Papers. Kikes for Jews, Pollacks for the Poles, Mick’s for the Irish, etc etc etc. But the comment that Trayvon made was in a private conversation to a friend, and totally unlike what Zimmerman muttered under his breath to the 911 people. Calling some one a “cracker” is not nearly as offensive as the you know what word. I looked up the word and found this:
    In a way, it’s amazing that Zimmerman was held accountable at all. Not because he was found not guilty, but that at first no one gave a shit and it took the outrage of the Black community to get it to trial. Call Al Sharpton what you will, but in the manner you describe him he is no different than Rush Limbaugh with the exception that Al has more guts and doesn’t shill for advertizers. Limbaugh appeals to the fearful, the paranoid and the resentful. Sharpton appeals to me. As far as the protests, as long as they are peaceful he has every right to do so. It’s codified in the Constitution. The right of assembly. Hell, The Westburo Baptist Church protests!

  6. kmg

    July 16, 2013 at 12:09 am

    • mitchethekid

      July 16, 2013 at 12:45 am

      As the Panthers and the Black community used to say, right on brother!

    • Cluster

      July 16, 2013 at 12:32 pm

      KMG, you are correct. That is the best summation of this tragic event that I have read. Along this line, over at B4V, Spook said that this could have been avoided with a very easy conversation – Zimmerman identifying himself as a neighborhood watchman and asking Trayvon who he was. Trayvon identifies himself and says he is walking to his Dads house who lives at “this address”. Incident over.

      We have all become too over reactionary and defensive, and that is one reason why Mitch and I started this blog. My conservative colleagues at B4V are no longer tolerant and even contemptuous of liberals opinions, and too many liberals simply lash out in anger at preconceived conservative bigotry without even knowing the person. Those biases do not create for a healthy society and I think we all saw a small culmination of that in the Zimmerman case and the subsequent outrage.

      From my many years in business management and ownership I have learned that when things aren’t working, you have to do something differently, and I don’t think anyone is convinced that things are working real well right now.

      • meursault1942

        July 16, 2013 at 5:10 pm

        “We have all become too over reactionary and defensive, and that is one reason why Mitch and I started this blog. My conservative colleagues at B4V are no longer tolerant and even contemptuous of liberals opinions, and too many liberals simply lash out in anger at preconceived conservative bigotry without even knowing the person. Those biases do not create for a healthy society and I think we all saw a small culmination of that in the Zimmerman case and the subsequent outrage.”

        Well said, Cluster. And I should mention that this blog is one of the only places I’ve seen where Zimmerman discussion didn’t immediately degrade into “screw you!” “no, screw YOU!” and a bunch of overheated inanities. That bodes well for this place, I think.

  7. watsonthethird

    July 16, 2013 at 2:15 am

  8. mitchethekid

    July 16, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    I wonder if this will change the perspective on the outcome of the trial. The reaction of those that wanted a conviction has been calm, reasoned and measured. Those that desired an acquittal has been to gloat.

  9. mitchethekid

    July 16, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    I was referring to media pundit’s and politicians. Not actual people!

  10. mitchethekid

    July 16, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    Thanks for the compliment meursault. Tell all your friends, family and associates about us.

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