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Welcome

10 Jul

I, and my colleagues, want to welcome all of those who join us here at Allpolytics Now (a play off of Apocalypse Now). This blog is designed for people of all political persuasions to engage in civil debate on a whole host of political, cultural and entertainment issues. The other authors and I are seasoned blog junkies who have grown tired of the partisan rancor and disrespect other blogs seem to allow, which always degenerate into personal attacks and accomplishes nothing. There is no reason why conservatives and progressives can not have civil discourse but in this day and age, that art has been lost – our mission is to change that. Many times we will have to simply agree to disagree, but there will also be times when maybe, just maybe, we can connect the dots and find common ground. I think we owe that to our country, after all we are all still Americans. I can tell you that if your mission is to personally attack the opinions of others, you will not be welcome.

The authors will be of both conservative and progressive persuasions and will write on current issues daily. We welcome your input and suggestions, and as we move forward (not lean forward – LOL), we hope to attract a large following of diverse opinion. After all, that is what makes life interesting.

Consider this thread an Open Thread, and let us know what is on your mind.

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10 Comments

Posted by on July 10, 2013 in Open Thread

 

10 responses to “Welcome

  1. mitchethekid

    July 11, 2013 at 10:20 pm

    As a contributor, editor, what-have-you I want to publicly thank Cluster for all the time, effort and $ he has invested in this project. I have high hopes for it’s success as well. I don’t know which one of us is Yin or Yang, 6 or 9 or perhaps we are Siamese Twins but the point I am trying to make is that there are reliable universal truths. One cliche being that opposites attract. (In our case intellectually, not as a function of sexual orientation!)
    With that said, both he and I became acquainted during many years of heated argument on a right wing blog. One that was steeped in religious fundamentalism, a glorification of authoritarian personalities, an unabashed revulsion to all things deemed “liberal” (including the Enlightenment) and was created in part as a temple of idolization for former President George W Bush.
    Several months ago, I reached out to Cluster in an effort to objectively understand him because I had grown weary of the electrified fence, so to speak, that separated different perspectives on the same issues. As a narcissistic progressive, I thought this idea was a good one and my needy ego was gratified for he responded in kind. As it turns out, the only things we do not have in common is some of the finer points of our political and social orientations. After much discussion and a mutual dissatisfaction with the people and their ideas who post on the referred to blog, we decided to venture forth into the blog world on our own.
    So now, dear readers, you have the background story. So what shall we talk about? The Rolling Stones 50th Anniversary Tour? The Texas Legislature? Trayvon Martin and the Faux News types suggesting riots? Immigration? Universal Healthcare and how the right is scared that it just might work as it was intended to? The eye spinning hysteria of Michelle Bachman or the Senate striptease of the pregnancy faking,self absorbed, delusional fantasist and pathological liar I resent the world and luxuriate in my know nothingness Sarah Palin? How about how poorly The Lone Ranger has performed? (Deep was phenomenal in Blow)
    How about climate change? Or evolution? Or the nature of religion and it’s purpose? Or what’s better, red, blue, green, yellow or fish riding bicycles?
    hahaha!

     
    • sarahbloch

      July 12, 2013 at 11:48 pm

      I fell this is a wonderful idea and it will create a space where solutions can be offered along with clear-minded [I promise] criticisms of what is actually wrong with the American system of government, its society and its perceived place on the global stage. I wish you gentlemen well and promise you the fullest support of the Executive Suite of The Dis Brimstone-Daily Pitchfork.

      Qu’ul cuda praedex nihil!

       
      • Cluster

        July 13, 2013 at 11:41 am

        Thank you Sarah. I hope this becomes a fun and educating forum for both progressives and conservatives, and help bridge the divide. As Mitch and I have discovered, we actually do a fair amount in common, and both want the best outcome possible. We just have different thoughts on how to get there. I do want to thank Mitch for encouraging me to reach out to him a few months ago, and for his involvement in this new blog. I look forward to reading his articles.

         
  2. kmg

    July 13, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    I was a regular commenter on Blogs4Bush (now Blogs4Victory) back in the early days. I remember getting into long debates over various topics, including one of Mark’s favorites, evolution. The debates only degenerated into insults and vitriol when Jeremiah and fmrmarine (now neocon1) chimed in. Jeremiah’s bigotry against gays and interracial marriages were disgusting and fmrmarine is simply racist. He was kicked off the blog for his comments and linking to white supremacist cites, but after a short time out he returned as neocon1 posting the same racist comments. I lost a great deal of respect for the regular commenters when they refused to acknowledge that neocon1 was fmrmarine. A few things eventually drove me from Blogs4Victory:

    1. The tacit endorsement of Jeremiah and neocon1’s bigotry and racism. I believe this was Matt and Leo’s decision, because I don’t think Mark has the ability to delete comments or ban commenters. At least that’s what Mark has said in the past.

    2. The inability to have good-natured debates without it quickly becoming a flame war. Occasionally calling someone a name as a joke or just ribbing them is one thing, but entire comments doing nothing more than insulting another person is another. I readily admit that at times I was as guilty as anyone else when provoked. Amazona (formerly Almiranta) used to be able to debate somewhat rationally, but in the last couple of years she has become an extremely bitter woman who immediately attacks anyone, left or right, that dares to disagree with what she knows to be the only truth.

    3. The lack of integrity in enforcing comment policies. A number of times, Mark or Matt would put out a policy that insults and attacks would be deleted and commenters would be banned. This would only be enforced on liberal posters. Jeremiah and neocon1 would only have their comments deleted when they were just too far beyond the pale.

    Anyway, I’ll try to jump once more into the fray with the hope that this new joint venture will be a better place. I lean left and I honestly enjoy reasoned debates with people on the other side. Being retired Army, I am used to being surrounded by people with different opinions than mine, but it never got into the screaming matches that are the norm on Blogs4Victory. Let’s see how it goes here.

     
    • Cluster

      July 13, 2013 at 3:08 pm

      Good to hear from you again KMG. This is a joint venture with mitchethekid and I, and there will be articles of both a progressive and conservative point of view to comment on, so I hope you stick around and offer your insights and opinions.

       
      • kmg

        July 13, 2013 at 3:34 pm

        Thanks, Cluster. I’m looking forward to it.

         
    • mitchethekid

      July 13, 2013 at 4:41 pm

      I remember you KMG. Great to hear from you. How did you link to this site?
      Your synopsis of B4V is succinct, accurate and in part is what motivated the creation of this new blog. To me, the kinds of comments allowed there reinforce a very negative image of what being conservative means. Conformation bias isn’t just a common trait to those cast of characters, it is a requirement. A testimony to the narrowness of their appeal is the very small number of people who post there. Or better yet, are allowed to.
      They comb the internet for all the misery and pessimism they can find. They are strident pessimists, reinforcing each other’s increasingly hysterical worldview without check or pause for reason and then accuse others, in a very dismissive manner, of being incapable of thinking critically! It is a constant stream of misery and woe. The President was born and raised in Kenya! The elections have been stolen! (Except when a conservative wins.) Allen West and Sarah Palin, go team! If Zimmerman is acquitted there will be riots! Liberalism is a disease and being a militant religious authoritarian is a Mitzvah.
      It’s an endless litany of pessimism, bitterness and gripping all made whole by the latest hysteria, conspiracy theories and Fox “News” lunacy.
      But enough about that. This blog promises to be different. No cloistering.

       
  3. kmg

    July 13, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    mitchie,

    I saw a trackback to the Rebut site on B4V before it got deleted, then saw Cluster’s link to this site on the Rebut site. Just my two cents on this blog, since it just started, but I would prefer seeing original posts here rather than just referencing something that was posted or said on B4V. Leave that for your Rebut blog. I don’t have a problem with cross-posting since Cluster is also a poster on B4V, and would actually encourage it, but I think discussions would be more productive if this blog stands on its own. I’m sure the tone and substance of the discussion on the Alabama education standards will be much different here than on B4V

     
    • Cluster

      July 13, 2013 at 5:13 pm

      The intent is for this blog to stand on its own. The initial cross posting is simply done to gain exposure.

       
      • kmg

        July 13, 2013 at 5:45 pm

        Cluster,

        Like I said, I actually encourage cross-posting. It takes a lot more time and effort to produce original content for more than site and you get different discussions and viewpoint on each site. I would just not want to see original posts on the topic of what someone posted or said on B4V. Go forth and conquer.

         
 
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